Gilmore & Green: Where Healing and Hope Meet
Do you sometimes feel lost in your relationships, your identity, or even your spirituality?
We are marriage and family therapists and relationship experts who care deeply about helping you grow, strengthen your relationships, and deepen your sense of meaning and spirituality. We share from our clinical experience, years of training and solid research, including ideas about how to strengthen the things that matter the most in life. Our hope is to share simple, meaningful ideas that support you in your healing and in your growth. Welcome to Gilmore and Green, where Healing and Hope meet.
Episodes

Jan 5, 2026
Jan 5, 2026
30 min
Egalitarian vs. Authoritarian Marriages: Building Balanced RelationshipsIn this episode, Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green dive deep into the power dynamics of marriage. They explore the painful reality of feeling "invisible" in a relationship and distinguish between Authoritarian (unbalanced/controlling) and Egalitarian (balanced/equal) partnerships. Drawing on extensive research, they discuss how sharing power, collaborating on roles, and fostering emotional reciprocity can build a resilient, fulfilling marriage that survives the "storms of life."Key Discussion PointsThe Pain of Invisibility: How being "seen" is a core human need and how a lack of voice leads to profound loneliness in a marriage.Defining the Egalitarian Marriage: It isn’t about 50/50 chores; it’s about mutual respect, shared authority, and flexible roles based on strengths rather than rigid gender norms.The Authoritarian Dynamic: Recognizing the signs of imbalance—where one partner holds primary power, and the other feels the need to "ask permission" or walk on eggshells.Research-Backed Benefits: Why egalitarian couples report higher relationship satisfaction, better conflict resolution, and faster recovery from life’s stressors.The "Mental Load": Acknowledging the invisible tasks (schedules, emotional tracking) and the importance of "spinning the plates" together.Quiet Quitting in Marriage: A look at the trend of disconnection and "emotional divorce" that happens when power imbalances go unaddressed.Self-Assessment: How is your Power Balance?We suggest asking these questions to evaluate your relationship health:Decision Making: Who makes the final call when you disagree?Prioritization: Whose preferences take center stage on a day-to-day basis?Emotional Labor: Who usually notices tension first and initiates the repair?Career & Money: Are both careers valued equally, regardless of income differences?Steps to Rebalance Your Relationship-Name the Pattern, Not the Person: Focus on the "system" of the relationship rather than blaming your partner.-Seek Mutual Influence: Practice the phrase, "Help me understand," to invite your partner's perspective.-Establish Non-Negotiables: Commit to zero tolerance for demeaning language, stonewalling, or using divorce as a threat.-Embrace Transparency: Share full access to finances, schedules, and parenting decisions.-Seek Professional Help: Consider Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) to gain insight into negative cycles."Therefore, What?" (Weekly Takeaways)Sharilyn: Committed to approaching "controlling" behaviors in her clinic with more compassion, understanding that they often stem from deep-seated insecurities or past models of survival.Dr. Debi Gilmore: Reflects on the gratitude she feels for her own egalitarian partnership and encourages listeners to explicitly thank their partners for their support.Notable Quotes"Collaborating means we put it all in the bowl, we mix it up and have a wonderful salad—a blend." – Dr. Debi Gilmore"Egalitarian marriages are built on safety, reciprocity, and partnership, while authoritarian marriages are built on fear, hierarchy, and reactivity." – Sharilyn GreenNEXT WEEK: A deep dive into the science backed antidote of loneliness, depression, addiction, apathy and disconnection! It’ll surprise you.00:00 The Need to Be Seen in Marriage00:51 Introduction to the Podcast01:25 Understanding Egalitarian Relationships04:09 Characteristics of Egalitarian Marriages05:21 Challenges and Flexibility in Roles06:26 Emotional and Mental Load Sharing07:44 Collaborative Leadership and Equity10:08 Research Supporting Egalitarian Marriages12:31 Assessing Your Relationship14:32 Authoritarian vs. Egalitarian Relationships18:29 Emotional Climate and Communication20:26 Conflict Styles and Power Dynamics21:19 Impact of Authoritarian Marriages23:50 Restoring Balance and Seeking Help28:54 Conclusion and Personal Reflections

Dec 29, 2025
Dec 29, 2025
26 min
The Healing Power of Chosen Families: Understanding Fictive Kin RelationshipsIn this episode, marriage and family therapists Sharilyn Green and Dr. Debi Gilmore explore the concept of 'fictive kin' or chosen families. Listen in to learn the emotional benefits of these relationships, particularly for individuals from broken or dysfunctional families. Fictive kin can offer emotional support, reduce loneliness, and foster personal growth. They also warn those with chosen family relationships against potential pitfalls such as over-dependency and emphasize the importance of maintaining healthy boundaries. You will feel the value of chosen families as a sign of personal resilience and emotional growth, rather than a failure to connect with biological relatives.A Few Key TakeawaysResilience Over Failure: Choosing family is a proactive step toward health. It allows you to experience "safe attachment" that may have been missing in childhood.Intentionality is Key: Unlike biological ties, fictive kin are based on mutual satisfaction and reciprocity rather than tradition or obligation.Boundaries Protect the Gift: Clear expectations prevent "rescuer dynamics" and ensure the relationship remains a source of strength, not stress.The "Therapy" Distinction: While chosen families provide incredible support, deep trauma work should still be handled with a trained therapist to avoid displacing past wounds onto new friends.Coming Up Next Week - Subscribe to get notified!Join us next time as we explore the balance of power in relationships and the benefits of an egalitarian marriage. We’ll discuss how shared leadership and mutual respect create a stronger foundation for long-term love.Episode Timeline00:00 | The "Claiming" Process: Why chosen family feels different than obligation.01:03 | Defining Fictive Kin: Understanding non-biological bonding.02:27 | Building a Village: The unique benefits of voluntary family ties.05:02 | The Science of Safety: How these bonds lower cortisol and heal trauma.11:34 | Healthy Boundaries: Spotting red flags like over-dependency or "learned helplessness."19:18 | Therapy vs. Tribe: Why chosen family compliments—but doesn't replace—professional healing.23:35 | Personal Reflections: A "Therefore, What?" look at the gift of these relationships.

Dec 22, 2025
Dec 22, 2025
26 min
How Does the Parable of the Ten Virgins Apply to Me?In this episode, Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green, both marriage and family therapists, delve into the Parable of the Ten Virgins from the New Testament. They explore its implications for spiritual, emotional, and relational preparedness for the return of Jesus Christ. Sharing personal anecdotes and insights, they discuss the importance of individual efforts in building relationships with God, oneself, and others, while emphasizing the non-transactional, heart-changing nature of spiritual growth. The conversation also touches on the symbolism and cultural context of Jewish weddings at the time of Christ and highlights a new sculpture in Salt Lake City's Temple Square that visually represents the relationships discussed. They conclude by encouraging listeners to share their light and cultivate spiritual resilience in daily life.Because it requires deeply personal work to acquire, oil cannot be shared. While this felt "unfair" as children, it makes sense through a relational lens as the oil is symbolic of personal efforts and preparations in these three relationships: with God, with others, and with ourselves.Oil with God: Knowing God through intimate processes like repentance, experiencing grace, cultivating humility, prayer, study, worship, and personal experiences with the Atonement.Oil with Others: Developing emotional self-regulation, awareness, maturity, safety, and healthy boundaries. Being truly present and consistent in words and actions.Oil with Self: Gaining a deep understanding of one's true identity and inherent worth. Security in self enhances all other relationships.Next week: What is fictive kin? Tune in to learn the benefits of chosen families!00:00 Introduction to the Parable of the Ten Virgins00:56 Personal Reflections on the Parable03:34 Understanding Jewish Wedding Traditions07:17 The Symbolism of the Oil and the Virgins07:53 The New Sculpture on Temple Square09:29 The Importance of Personal Preparation17:33 Sharing Light with Others22:48 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Dec 15, 2025
Dec 15, 2025
31 min
Building Secure Attachment: Keys to Healthy Adult RelationshipsIn this episode of 'Mindful Moments: Insights to Empower the Soul,' Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn explore the fundamental principles of healthy attachment in adult committed relationships. They stress the importance of swift repair in maintaining trust, emotional safety, and deep friendship. The hosts detail the 'ARE' acronym—Accessibility, Responsiveness, and Engagement—as a framework for building secure attachment. They also discuss the necessity of predictable behavior, emotional co-regulation, and frequent shows of appreciation and affection. This episode is packed with practical advice for both couples and individuals seeking to form stronger emotional bonds.Key takeaways:Conflict is inevitable: Secure attachment is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to achieve swift repair after a disagreement.Built through effort: Secure relationships are built "moment by moment, repair by repair," requiring intention, humility, and practice.The A-R-E PrincipleAccessible: Present and non-distracted (e.g., setting down devices, making eye contact).Responsive: Validating and listening, showing a desire for attunement.Engaged: Staying present and showing interest even when disagreeing.Essential Building Blocks of Secure Attachment:Interdependence: The ideal balance is a mix of dependence and independence.Repair: The relationship formula is Conflict + Repair = Reconnection.Emotion Co-Regulation: Partners must learn to help calm each other’s nervous systemsNo Threats: Do not use relationship-damaging tactics like threats of divorce, stonewalling, or punitive withdrawal.In healthy relationships, both partners feel safe, seen, valued, and claimed (or cherished).Next week: Spiritual and Emotional Counsel from the Parable of the 10 Virgins00:00 Introduction to Relationship Wounds and Repair00:38 Welcome to Mindful Moments Podcast00:56 The Christmas Romance Movie Pattern02:35 Importance of Healthy Attachment in Adult Relationships04:01 Agenda for Today's Discussion04:39 Understanding the A-R-E Principle12:49 Building Trust and Emotional Safety15:14 Interdependence in Relationships17:46 Secure Communication Patterns20:57 The Power of Relationship Repair23:50 Emotion Co-Regulation and Transparency27:05 Appreciation and Affection in Relationships28:11 Attachment Checklist: Healthy vs. Unhealthy30:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Dec 8, 2025
Dec 8, 2025
32 min
The Art of Connecting Through Deep CommunicationIn this episode of 'Mindful Moments: Insights to Empower The Soul,' marriage and family therapists, Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green, discuss the essential skills needed for connecting communication in relationships. They emphasize the importance of honest complaining, deep listening, and validating others' feelings. The conversation highlights how mastering these skills can cultivate deeper connections, emotional safety, and mutual respect in any relationship. The hosts also provide practical tips and specific questions to foster meaningful conversations, encouraging listeners to practice vulnerability and compassion.Key Takeaways for Deeper ConnectionThe path to connecting talk involves mastering three essential arts:1. The Art of Listening (Be Present, Not Prescriptive)Avoid the "Fix”, Practice Reflective Listening, & Embrace Compassion.2. The Art of Complaining (Make it "Legal")Distinguish Complaint from Criticism, Avoid Silencing Feelings, & Be Courageous: 3. The Art of Validation (Sign for the Package)Validation is not Agreement, Acknowledge Their Value, Be There for Them.Connecting Talk is a style of communication that requires vulnerability and leads to a richer, safer relationship. Listen in to learn just how to make that happen for you and the people closest to your heart.NEXT WEEK: Diving into secure adult relationships, the why and the how of making it happen.00:00 Introduction: The Unspoken Rule of Not Complaining00:42 Welcome to Mindful Moments Podcast01:05 The Art of Communicating for Closeness04:04 Mastering the Art of Listening07:59 The Importance of Reflective Listening10:24 The Art of Complaining: Making It Okay12:42 Understanding the Difference Between Complaining and Criticism17:52 The Art of Validation: Acknowledging and Reinforcing Value21:03 Practical Tips for Connecting Talk23:52 The Positive Impact of Connecting Talk31:10 Conclusion: The Power of Vulnerability and Compassionate Listening

Dec 1, 2025
Dec 1, 2025
23 min
Avoid Holiday Dread: Navigating Difficult Family During the HolidaysThe holiday season is meant for joy, but family gatherings can sometimes bring stress and tension. Join hosts Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green as they share essential strategies for managing difficult family dynamics this holiday season.This episode offers actionable advice on how to protect your peace, maintain your boundaries, and genuinely connect with loved ones without sacrificing your well-being.🔑 A Few Key TakeawaysSet Clear Expectations: Proactively decide what you can and cannot manage before the event.Establish Healthy Boundaries: Learn how to communicate and maintain your personal limits, especially with challenging relatives.Take Mini Breaks: Utilize short breaks to step away, reset your emotions, and prevent overwhelm.Focus on Connection, Not Perfection: Shift your focus from achieving an "ideal" holiday to finding meaningful moments with family.Model Respect and Kindness: Influence the atmosphere by demonstrating the behavior you wish to see.Plan Your Emotional Safety Net: Prepare for nurturing, post-gathering activities to recover and restore your energy.Handling In-Laws: Learn specific strategies for couples to navigate dynamics with in-laws without causing tension.⏳ Time Stamps00:00 | Introduction to Mindful Moments Podcast01:08 | Navigating Holiday Anxiety03:07 | Setting Clear Expectations04:28 | Establishing Healthy Boundaries06:51 | Taking Mini Breaks to Reset07:57 | Avoiding Conflict Traps and Uncomfortable Conversations09:56 | Building an Emotional Safety Net (Preparation and Recovery)11:10 | Focusing on Connection, Not Perfection11:54 | Planning Nurturing Activities Post-Gathering12:52 | Couples and In-Laws: Strategies for Harmony22:05 | Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Nov 24, 2025
Nov 24, 2025
26 min
The Crisis of Faith Part 2: Doubt Can Lead to Deeper FaithThe complex journey of faith and spiritual doubt can feel overwhelming, but What if doubt is a natural part of growth and curiosity? How do you manage a spiritual crisis without eliminating doubt?Join licensed Marriage and Family Therapists Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green as they explore integrating doubt into one's spiritual journey with empathy and wisdom.✨ What We Cover in This Episode:-Integrating Doubt and Faith: View doubt not as an enemy, but as a companion for personal growth, much like pruning a plant.-Practical Tools for the Journey: Explore the use of meditation, prayer, and journaling to navigate uncertainty.-The Power of Connection: Discover the importance of compassionate, non-judgmental conversations with trusted individuals and the value of community support.-Reflecting on Experience: Learn to draw strength from your own lived experiences and past faithfulness.-A Reciprocal Process: Understand the interplay between faith and doubt, promoting deeper spiritual connections.🔔 Next Week!Feeling anxious for the holidays? (and not in a good way?) Thankfully Dr. Gilmore & Green have your back! Next week's episode is all about navigating holidays with difficult families, and how you can find more enjoyment and peace during this season!Websites: www.drdebigilmore.com, https://linktr.ee/drdebigilmoreInstagram: @the_love.therapist & @sharilyngreen00:00 Introduction to Mindful Moments Podcast00:50 Understanding Spiritual Doubt02:10 Embracing Curiosity and Growth04:01 Tools for Navigating Doubt05:26 Connecting with Others and Lived Experiences08:16 Stages of Faith and Personal Stories11:28 Approaching Doubt with Faith18:57 Reflecting on Past Faithfulness22:14 The Reciprocal Process of Faith and Doubt24:35 Final Thoughts and Personal Commitments

Nov 17, 2025
Nov 17, 2025
25 min
The Crisis of Faith Part 1: Navigating Faith Divergence in Marriage
What happens when one spouse's faith changes? This sensitive and deeply personal shift can feel like an earthquake in a marriage, affecting individual identity, couple dynamics, and even your extended family.
Join licensed Marriage and Family Therapists Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green as they tackle this crucial topic with the empathy and wisdom it deserves.
✨ What We Cover in This Episode:
The Impact of a Faith Crisis: How a change in belief rocks an individual's identity and reshapes the relationship landscape.
The Power of Respect: Strategies for approaching religious differences with empathy and curiosity instead of judgment.
Practical Tools for Couples: Learn how to set healthy boundaries, respectfully discuss different beliefs, and find common values that unite you.
Creating a Supportive Space: Discover the importance of compassion and how to build new couple rituals that honor both partners' spiritual journeys.
Unifying Principles: The conversation ends on a hopeful note, focusing on love and mutual respect as the bedrock for deeper connection and emotional trust in a mixed-faith marriage.
🔔 Next Week! (Part 2)
Join us next week as Dr. Gilmore & Green focus on the individual's experience of a personal faith crisis. Subscribe so you don't miss it!
Websites: www.drdebigilmore.com, https://linktr.ee/drdebigilmore
Instagram: @the_love.therapist & @sharilyngreen
Youtube: @DrDebiGilmore
00:00 Introduction to Faith and Relationships
00:41 The Impact of Faith Changes on Couples
01:46 Therapeutic Approaches to Faith Differences
02:15 Effective Communication Strategies
03:13 Understanding and Respecting Beliefs
05:19 Navigating Shared Values and Big Questions
07:18 Creating Shared Rituals and Boundaries
09:21 Evolving Faith and Seeking Support
12:23 Respect and Curiosity in Faith Discussions
17:55 Practical Steps for Mixed-Faith Couples
21:49 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Nov 10, 2025
Nov 10, 2025
19 min
In this episode, Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green—both seasoned marriage and family therapists—dive deep into one of the most essential skills for lasting love: managing differences.From finances and communication styles to intimacy and household responsibilities, they unpack the everyday challenges that can either divide or strengthen a couple. Dr. Gilmore and Sharilyn share practical strategies for navigating disagreements with respect, curiosity, and compassion—while staying true to your core values.You’ll also discover how healthy conflict resolution doesn’t just build stronger partnerships—it sets the tone for your entire family. Learn how modeling collaboration and open communication can help children feel secure and connected, creating a ripple effect of emotional resilience at home.✨ Tune in for real talk, proven tools, and inspiring insight into what makes relationships thrive—even when you don’t see eye to eye.www.drdebigilmore.comhttps://linktr.ee/drdebigilmore@the_love.therapist@DrDebiGilmore00:00 Introduction to the Therapists00:38 Understanding Disagreements in Relationships02:30 The Importance of Core Values05:17 Common Areas of Disagreement11:55 Steps to Embrace and Celebrate Differences15:35 The Role of Communication and Collaboration17:41 Modeling Healthy Conflict Resolution for Children18:40 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Nov 3, 2025
Nov 3, 2025
19 min
Introducing Our Upcoming Podcast on Values and Morals, Called "Mindful Moments: Insights to Empower the Soul".
In this introductory episode, Dr. Debi Gilmore and Sharilyn Green, both marriage and family therapists, unveil their new podcast dedicated to soulful conversations centered on values, spirituality, and personal growth. The hosts emphasize the importance of compassion, integrity, empathy, and the pursuit of overall wellbeing in a less-than-ideal world. They discuss the podcast’s goals of fostering meaningful dialogue, exploring diverse perspectives, and inspiring listeners to live better, more fulfilling lives. Additionally, they invite listeners to connect and participate by suggesting topics and questions via their websites and social media platforms. The episode concludes with a promise of engaging future discussions and the hosts’ gratitude for embarking on this journey with their audience.
www.DrDebiGilmore.com
Instagram: @the_love.therapist https://www.instagram.com/the_love.therapist/
@sharilyngreen https://www.instagram.com/sharilyngreen/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/degilmo, https://www.facebook.com/sharilyn.o.green
00:00 Introduction to Our Podcast
01:08 What to Expect from Our Podcast
01:52 Invitation to Connect
02:58 Our Core Values and Beliefs
10:16 The Importance of Compassion and Empathy
11:56 Personal Growth and Courage
14:28 Faith, Spirituality, and Balance
18:21 The Power of Friendship and Gratitude
19:34 Conclusion and Next Steps






